i think simon green's site has helped more people than he ever would have imagined!
do you agree??
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This place has helped me to get my head around the reality of what the borg is and what it does to people. I knew for a long time that there was something wrong but I just couldn't articulate exactly what it was. I left the borg then I found this place a few days later, it really helped stabilize me and helped me and Just Ron figure out how to move forward.
So thank you very much Simon and Anghard and every one else here!
i did.. most of the elders were decent men but i'd say a third weren't the brightest bulbs in the sky..
I don't think any of the elders in my hall were low IQ, I just think they suffered from a total lack of insight and common sense.
some have figured out, but i am a poster that previously used another name.
but even then i did not give many details about myself.
i barely cracked 100 posts.. but i have never done a thread to explain why i am here.
I moved to this place for work - I wanted the job and they commanded me to live here LOL. It's not a bad place, and I actually rather like it. You are in tough spot since you can't sell. I love that you are involved with Habitat. We don't have a group in our county, I would love to get involved because I think it's a great program. I take it you are not married and don't have young kids at home?
some have figured out, but i am a poster that previously used another name.
but even then i did not give many details about myself.
i barely cracked 100 posts.. but i have never done a thread to explain why i am here.
Disillusioned1, would it be possible for you to move to an area that's not so religious? Maybe just a larger town in the same area? I'm guessing that you arein a fairly small town. I've noticed that it's really hard for adults to grow a social life from scratch (especially in a small town) unless you join some sort of organization. When I first moved to the town I live in now, I was not a dub and I didn't have kids. It was really hard to meet people and make friends. I finally met a woman through my work and we became friends. She got my husband to join the Elks, which gave us a bit of a social life. Then we became dubs and cut off all those friendships. Now that we are out, we are starting over again. We've made friends through the Boy Scouts since our kids have joined, and Just Ron is thinking about trying to rejoin the Elks.
i really wanna play catch-up!
i have a great group of "heathen worldlings," faded and exjws and i'm gonna try and arrange something for this year.
there are tons of clubs in my city that throw fantastic parties.
Cobalt - my husband said the same thing!
so, we are meeting our new co this week... i wonder if he'll be as glory hungry as the last one and the one before him and the one... well you can get the idea.
too bad we didn't volunteer to feed him .
that makes me wonder...why do they receive so much glory and attention as if they were some type of celebrity?
We had one named John Carroll. He was a real piece of work. His wife was nice though. I bought her some heavy duty hand lotion because her hands would crack so badly in the winter. At the time, I believed that they really couldn't afford good hand lotion, but in retrospect I figure he was unconcerned with her misery and unwilling to buy the expensive kind of lotion that would actually help.
did your kids resist your leaving the organization?
how did you get your kids to understand the need to leave?
did they react well?.
My boys were 12, 10, and 4 when we left. The middle one and the little one were thrilled - they both hated sitting through meetings and assemblies. My older son was distressed over not seeing his friends at the hall, and he thought we were going to get divorced and all sorts of bad things would happen. I don't think my middle son ever believed anything the dubs taught. We hadn't really put in a llot of effort trying to indoctrinate the boys - we were awful slacker parents. We sat them down one at a time and explained what was going on, and why we were not going to go to the hall anymore. It took a few weeks for the older one to really settle down, he cried a few times over his friends. We got the older two into BOy Scouts right away, they already knew one boy in the troop from our neighborhood. We also enrolled them in public school for the first time, which has been quite an adjustment. So far they seem to be doing well. I just hope they never got back into the borg.
i've seen that many in the organization have an unhealthy view of medical professionals, especially as it relates to psychiatry/psychology.
i thought this was an appropriate topic considering what happened with oompa.
how do you feel about your mental health now that you left?
When I got involved with the borg, my mental health went to hell in a handbasket. Once the love bombing stopped and the "you aren't doing enough" started in full force, I was a mess. At one point I was on two different meds and I was one step away from hospitalization. Honestly, if my appointment had been on 9/10/01 instead of 9/11/01, I probably would have been committed. But everyone was so freaked out that I got a pass and they just upped my meds. Since Just ROn and I finally got out, I've been way more stable and a lot happier. I remember being afraid to really talk to the doctor and absolutely refusing to see a shrink. It's weird because I had seen a therapist back in college years before I became a dub, and I always thought highly of her. But the borg gets in your head and screws up your thinking.
i really wanna play catch-up!
i have a great group of "heathen worldlings," faded and exjws and i'm gonna try and arrange something for this year.
there are tons of clubs in my city that throw fantastic parties.
Dude really! *the* absolute best Halloween costume this year is SParlock the Warrior Wizard!! I'm going to work one up for myself to wear while I hand out candy
this might not work for everyone, but it might for some.. if a person faces disfellowshipping, the person should make the elders prove that they are baptized!.
as far as i know, baptism records are not sent to bethel.. without two witnesses to the event (and the witnesses have to remember seeing the person immersed), and no photos, there would be no proof.. if someone did this, the elders would of course contact bethel for instructions, but what could they do?.
it would put a stop to the elders proceeding with any action..
It might work in a large hall or if you had moved into the area after baptism. In the hall I attended, probably every elder has a picture of me getting baptized in his personal possession.
